say, well, with that money, he's got financial security for the rest of his life, but he's also a guy that signed that because he wants to play football. he said two years ago so for those other concussions that i've mentioned, he had thought about retiring and decided i love football too much. why would he not feel that today? i don't know. it's such a personal decision. and this is such a unique situation because rarely have we ever had the football world say you need to walk away. usually the football world wants their football players to continue play. but in this case, most don't. >> yeah, it's just a tough a tough situation. and you got to think of his family and there's such a close-knit family also in this that it's just heartbreaking dizzy, damon, thank you for being here. my pleasure. thank you. >> and thank you all so much for being hearing catch damon on his sirius xm show. make sure listening to that thank you for joining us on this friday night up next a cnn newsnight with abby phillip tonight. >> donald trump escalate his

rhetoric despite the real-world consequences, bomb threat to school vacua, the real threat is what's happening. now. >> and defense the far right conspiracy theorist inside his entourage, we have very spirited people plus trump harris, and the holy roast. the pope criticizing both candidates. and advises americans on the quote lesser of two evils also, public confidence is all we have. my revealing interview with the newest supreme court justice what ketanji brown jackson says about the election. the court's credibility crisis, and why she almost gave up her entire career live at the table coleman hughes natasha alford, trisha mcloughlin, jay michaelson and joining the conversation, the cast of the new cnn original series, have i got news for you? welcome to a special edition of newsnight

state of the race happy friday. i'm abby phillip in new york. let's get right to what america is talking about. pet peeves and politics. donald trump tripling down on the rants, the tangents and the conspiracies that his allies have told him cost him the debate. rhetoric that kamala harris tonight says that americans are exhausted by he's set to speak in las vegas any moment now, but i'll start in ohio schools in springfield have been forced to evacuate for the second day in a row. now, over threats after trump amplified baseless conspiracies about migrants eating pets in our community now it's clear he doesn't care about any of that know the real threat is what's happening at our border. we will do large deportations from

springfield, ohio large deportations. >> we're going to get these people out. it's like an invasion from within. and we're going to have the largest deportation in the history of our country now it's worth noting that those haitian immigrants in springfield are in this country legally, but none of that really matters and trump is tripling down. >> i'm sure he's talked actually today about going to springfield, going to aurora, colorado, where another story was taken out of context he is doubling down on something that a lot of people who want him to succeed say, is a dead end yeah. >> i mean, i haven't seen any evidence that there's any dead cats or dogs at the hands of anyone, any human, much less. >> these migrants who are, like you said, here, legally some of these citizens have testified in front of the city council saying that there's it's really chaos at that there has been cars burning cars flipped that they'd feel unsafe in their community keep in mind this is

just failed federal policy. this is a community about 60,000 people. i'm from ohio, about 30 or 40 minutes from springfield. this is a community that out of poverty rate about 20% very working community. and so federal policy lead, while these are illegal migrants, this is 20,000 people coming into a community, 60,000 people being completely overrun. it doesn't matter if they're migrants from haiti or california. the schools are being overrun. the social services are being over on, that is poor metals when just to be clear, when do you use terms like overrun? yeah, i think that's actually part of the problem governor mike dewine has talked about this. first of all, he's confirmed in his understanding there's no evidence of this whole thing with pads, but he also made the point that these people are coming into this town. yeah, there are a lot of them, but they're filling jobs that were open, jobs that were not being filled until they got there. and that the employers are

saying they're good workers, they're hard workers. we need and so it overrun it is a turn of phrase that is designed to make people feel like there is some kind of saying that's the citizens on the ground are saying that's not my words. that's there. so let's also wish into these people's concerns. i don't think i understand that. pick apart rhetoric when these people are having real problem also so these people have been primed to use language like that. they'd been listening to this, hear me out. there been listening to a president which has been fear mongering scapegoating. these individuals, these communities, playing on racist tropes about think about s whole countries that were talked about those were countries with predominantly black and brown people want and one of them was haiti, which zhuge from contrasted with the country he wanted migrants to come for him, which was norway, right? like maybe the widest country in the world. >> and i think it goes without saying that the history matters too, because so much of the destabilization that we see in haiti is actually because of

policies that the u.s. embraces historically when they wouldn't even recognize the independence of haley as they broke free from their slave masters. and so these are people who as you said, abby, they have work ethic, they have families and all of this language is meant to dehumanize them. and again, to oversimplify a really complicated issue, it's not to say that immigration is broken in this country country, but when you make someone escape go, it's easy to say just, but that's not all that trump did today. i mean, the whole other thing that he's been dogged by, no pun intended is this issue of laura loomer, who is on his plane she is a conspiracy theorists of the highest order and he started the day by i say this about laura loomer being asked frankly, about her 9-11 conspiracies and her racist comments about the vice president laura has been a supporter of mine just like a lot of people are supporters and she's been a supporter of mine he speaks very positively

of the campaign. >> i'm not sure why you asked the question, but laura is a supporter i don't control laura. laura has to say what you want. >> your allies have expressed concern. >> well, i don't know. i mean, look, i can't tell you laura what to do. laura is a supporter if this were any other person, if there's where a democrat or any other politician wouldn't that be disqualifying? >> it might be. i mean, look look laura is a great a nutjob. i want his agree with that what i think from trump's point of view, i think he's betting that this election is about immigration. and that people will forget everything else, even if all these other issues or entertaining and interesting in the new cycle. but i think at the end of the day he's betting that this election is about one thing, about the border what are about immigration? he may be right about that, okay. you might be wrong, but he might be right. and if he's right, it'll be because of this nativism is one

of the most powerful forces in not just american politics, but world politics. and it is rooted in human nature. any look at history, this is 100% true and so we have had the biggest border and immigration crisis certainly in my lifetime in the past three years. and he is betting that being the toughest as possible on the border candidate and screw all these other things is going to win him the election as a high risk, high reward, partly because it is the other lesson that he's gotten from the 2016 election. that's where she also thought he won because of the issue of immigration. right? >> i guess i would take issue a little bit that this kind of nativism as part of human nature, right? that's certainly true for human beings, sapiens, other primates that we favor our in-group over the hour outgroup. but there are different ways that, that can express itself. and given that that is part of our human animal nature two use rhetoric, it is true that people are suffering and people have anxieties. but to then fan those flames, we've seen this in the jewish community before when trump supported people who said jews will not replace us.

and then not long after that there was the tree of life shooter who was spouting into great replacement theory so i agree that there's an aspect to human nature that we favor our group but what wise leaders do is work with that skilfully, not fan the flames of the most violent aspects of who trump is far from a wise leader, but he didn't support the people that said jews will not replace us. that's been now certainly fine. >> people who marked the other with no, but that's been fact checks by all the top fact checkers. >> what person marches? it's with a no he said 15 seconds later and the neo-nazis and white supremacists, i condemn them completely. so he was talking about mark. martin, other conservatives that we're not the ones that were saying jews, the ones who are like a lot be fair or is it's important to be fair. i don't think i think she's making what appears really. >> i this is a complaint. i hear from conservative this all the time, but the central point is actually the one that jays making what's the utility in saying that the people marching alongside the neo-nazis are fine people because it's not helped.

>> well, he distinguished between the conservatives that cared about the statue. and she said the nazis and white supremacy, i condemn them completely. that's what he said. >> but if i'm marching with sorry, he was making and, i wanted to send a replace that would invite those. jay, but i'm saying you got to find you got up, you got to expect to make what he is actually emblematic of what this day has been like for donald trump, which is baseless conspiracies about the immigrants in ohio defending this 911. i can't even call her to 911 conspiracy theory in sandy hook truther and it brings up an era for trump that i think a lot of would like to forget. they don't want to be talking about charlottesville, right? you don't want to be talking about this stuff. >> i think with all of this, if you're confusing enough, vague enough, if you flip flop enough, it allows people to create their own conclusions, right? and the people who want to defend you and support you will be able to justify that. i think that's what it is. it's

about creating confusion. and the old folks would say discernment that's a word that comes up a lot if you had a sermon as a leader, you don't walk around with someone like a laura loomer and then say, oh, i'm not responsible for what she does, what if she's walking around with a clan hood, right? like you just you know what it means? to stand with someone, right? you know what it means to let them have proximity to you. and i think it's a lot of playing dumb, frankly, are not taking responsibility and it's a double standard because again, every single thing that i think about president obama anyone who was associated with him, right? it was a problem. the pastor who preached years ago, who was talking about the state of america, they found his transcript and they tied it to obama. so how is it that we criticize other leaders but when he across that was fair at the time, but i don't want it to be consistent. >> you'd have to say on foreign to be fair obama kava whole speech you know, a very fast thing himself from it,

talking about race in america. that's the difference, i guess the gulf, i just want to say i'm like, you know, first of all as, you know, in some on the progressive side, god bless laura loomer, right? she's god's gift if there's a conspiracy theory that's true, she should be a democrat plant. this, she has so far to the right of the center that this is god's gift to the democrats. so shabbat shalom laura loomer, i mean, i think this is a fantastic win for for our side. >> i'm not even sure you can place her firmly in any sort of ideological prison here. everyone stick around for us coming up next, the pope is blasting both vice president harris and donald trump so blunt advice to american voters, plus, why would junior and the cast of cnn's new original series have i got news for you? they're gonna join me live at the table. don't miss it >> it's coming to cnn this fall pros and cons less pro hosted by roy wood junior row with amber ruffin would michaelian black hole, right. >> so what are the cons we could run at a news by then

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7866 at 5:55 i'm pete muntean at reagan national airport. >> this is cnn francis is weighing in on the upcoming presidential election. he's describing the choice between donald trump and vice president harris as the lesser of two evils in january. sydney chicken what you have to vote and one must choose the lesser of two evils. >> who is the lesser of two evils? that lady or that gentleman? i don't know everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it back at the table and the reason for this is he talks about trump's views on migration as being one evil. >> harris is views on abortion as being another evil. >> so i'm going to say what maybe you might not expect i'm going to say which i mean, i actually think i have no idea actually i think this stuff so

let my informed view. no, i think i think that line is it makes it does make it seem like his condemning both sides, but i think he's saying the truth, just as a matter of catherine up catholic doctrine. both of these candidates are promoting policies that run contrary to that dogma, and but i think what he's sort of tacitly saying is it's not one or the other that abortion is a veto because there are many conservative catholics who see this as a one issue election not immigration by the way, but abortion and i think what the pope is trying to say as well, there's teachings on all sides of this, right? so donald trump is violating catholic teachings. the pope, not me, on migration also, the pope has made very outspoken statements on climate change, on economic inequality and so i trust people with faith to do exactly what the pope suggested, which is total up all of the different ways in in which these candidates do or don't reflect are deeply held beliefs interpreted what he had to say was kind of putting, putting harrison trump on equal

footing, right? is that how you hear it? >> yes. so i think i agree with you, obviously, everyone knows the catholic church has been opposed to abortion vehemently for forever and less people know i think they've been very supportive of immigration and being humane for a very long time. going back to several popes what's new here is that i don't think the catholic church has ever put those two issues on a par, which is to say abortion has been a much more important issue. catholicism than immigration. and the fact that he's basically saying these are even steven is in historical terms, is raising the importance of the immigration issue to catholics, which i think that's what's new here. >> i think this was a progressive statement on it's very interesting because, you know, you do there are all. >> kinds of different forms of christianity, of course, and i saw a lot from progressive christians. if you want to call them that pointing out that the bible's teachings actually do elevate the voices of the

oppressed, of the marginalized, of the exiles and that what the pope is essentially saying is that that is important to i thought it was notable that the pope called separation of families at the border cruelty of the highest form when it happened. >> so i agree with that. i think he's calling it out as a moral issue, which think about all the rest we're hearing again demonizing people, you saying that they're eating pets. it's all meant to lower our compassion or empathy for people who are struggling. and so i do think it's powerful, but i do think it's important. kamala harris has been very strategic about how she's talked about abortion. she said, if you have deeply health deeply held beliefs about this, your faith hold onto those things. this is about government interference and respecting people's privacy. and so i think in her framing it that way, she's making space for people who might disagree are these comments can

cause upheaval in there's, a, there's not as many right-leaning catholics, but it's a growing number. >> i'm catholic and i mean he's pope francis is the head of the church. he's consistently makes political remarks. remember, he talked about ukraine needs to wave the white flag back during the iraq war. obviously, a different pope, but publicly criticized george hw bush, or excuse me, george w bush for the iraq war. so i mean, the catholic church consistently delves into politics. its, i mean, religion, morality as we were saying, with politics, is naturally intertwined. so i'm not surprised. i don't we'll see what happens it's not surprising from this, especially if pope francis is very outspoken. alright, everyone. thank you all for being here, coming up next. we've got a special treat for you at the table, the host of the new cnn comedy series i got news for you. they're going to be here joining me at the table. roy wood junior amber ruffin, and michael ian black will talk about the debate.

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jackson writes about in her new memoir entitled lovely one i had the opportunity to sit down with her today and we talked about the election and the court's credibility crisis. but also her journey to the bench, including the role that race played in at all well race has played a significant role in who i am and who i've become i, start the book by talking about my family and in particular my grandparents who moved from georgia rural georgia at a time of legal segregation. >> and the impact that that had on their lives in the lives of my parents really contributed to my own situation. my parents, i think really saw this as their opportunity to do all the things that they didn't get to do. and so they encouraged me to participate

and to take full advantage of the freedoms that african americans then enjoyed so much of this book is deeply personal and you share about your family, your husband, and your two daughters you also revealed for the first time that you're older daughter to leah is autistic? >> yes. i should note that she consented to this being written about in the book, but this really struck me. you wrote, had i truly been of the mindset to accept what was going on with my child. i probably would have quit my job to attain hand to her needs full-time? yes. did you really consider walking away from all that you had dreamed up for yourself and all of that you would accomplished absolutely. >> i mean, we struggled when she was young, trying to read we understand what she needed, what she needed to be for support in education and in

other areas. but we didn't have a diagnosis. we didn't know that she was autistic until about seventh grade. and so i kept thinking, well, if i can just find the right school or if i can put her in the right lessons or after school program or via the right manny, everything will be fine. and so it was that delusion in a way that kept me thinking i should just continue to stay in my job while i look for yet another accommodation i think if i had known earlier, i probably would have just decided that i needed to care for her full time. i really wanted people to know that you can reach can do things that you've dreamed about doing. even if you have challenges in your family? >> yeah and you talk about being a working mom?

>> yes. >> it is. something that is hard no matter who you are and you said, when you returned to your law firm job after your maternity leave, it was the stuff of nightmares. >> it was why well, i missed my baby, which was a difficult thing, just emotionally to go back into the workforce after having taken some maternity leave time to be with her at that time? workplaces, more necessarily set up to accommodate working mothers and i had to figure out ways to pump my breast milk and then store it in an environment that really wasn't setup for that. we'll hear too a lot of women exactly. and then there was the sort of feeling of not meeting expectations both at work and at home. you can't be in two places at once and there were obviously expectations for me

he and my performance both in the house and in my job and i felt very inadequate at the time. >> what are your girls say to you? when they hear about how tough it was for you to manage those things i think there proud of my having gotten through it and our family having having turned out the way it did i had a point in which my younger daughter decided that she was going to endorse me for the supreme court wrote a letter to the wrote a letter to the residents led that he should appoint me and that really made me feel like i must have done something right other women who actually have reached your heights for example, justice ruth bader ginsburg, back in 2009, she told our colleague joan biskupic that even in spite of all of her extensive experience her accolades she didn't always

feel like her male colleagues on the court heard her voice. >> she said, when i will say something and i don't think i'm confused. speaker, it isn't until someone else says it that everyone will focus on point. i wonder i mean, do you feel heard now in the court yeah. i do actually maybe that's just because i asserting. myself no, i haven't had that same experience on the court. >> and you are asserting yourself asking more questions than many of your colleagues writing forceful opinions, is that is intentional to assert yourself in this moment? well you know, i was a judge for 78 years before i joined the court and for most of that time, i was a district judge, which is at the trial level and you have your own courtroom.

>> it's been a challenge. i think to have that translate into the collective decision-making model of the court. >> if i have a point, i want to make if i'm trying to ask my colleagues to consider an issue then i feel very strongly that it's my obligation to speak up because this is an important seat and roll. >> and i'm going to take full advantage of it. >> in the time that you've been on the

>> decided to talk about my descend in one way, i think i was flattered because it meant that i must have been making points that were worth responding to in one of this is on the presidential immunity case, a major decision the court, you characterize the majority's opinion as a five alarm fire that is pretty dire language why did you specifically use those words i wanted to highlight some of the consequences that i foresaw as a, result of this particular decision. >> this was a significant case.

i think everyone everybody recognized that. and i thought it was important to make clear to the american people, at least my view of what the potential consequences were. >> you write in the book about this idea of precedent, which is coming up a lot lately. you talked about how your mentor, justice breyer, emphasized that judges are obligated to observe precedent. this court has overturned precedent in some very significant ways. is there a risk that in doing so, they could lose the confidence of the public? >> yes i mean, precedent is very important. it is actually one of the constraints on judicial authority that has existed since the beginning of the court the idea that judges have

the things that alexander hamilton, for example, talked about, and i talked about this in the book a little bit, is that the judiciary would not be the most dangerous branch. in fact, it would be the least dangerous branch in part because it was constrained in certain ways. and one of them is by understanding that when you get an issue, you're not looking at it cold if years from now, the composition of the court were to change it substantially. and the issue of women's reproductive rights and abortion came back up. would it be appropriate for the court to revisit and perhaps even overturned the dobbs decision oh, i'm not going to predict what would happen in the future i can't say whether or not it's appropriate in the abstract part of the reason. >> i'm asking these questions is in this moment. >> so many americans are

looking at the court. they see 6-3 decisions being handed down along. what seems to be ideological lines. do you have concerns about that perception that the public might think that legal differences are aligning so closely with political differences. >> i think it is a concern for the court as an institution because public confidence is basically all we have the court does not have the power of the purse. it does not have an army it can't make people in force or follow its opinions. >> and so it's really important for maintenance of the rule of law that people believe in the justices, in their rulings especially in these very contentious cases so you asked me, do i have a

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starts tomorrow, 9:00 p.m. eastern time welcome to the table. so but you guys are mortal enemies because your team captains on opposite on the screen were mortal enemies off screen were mortal enemies right right. >> i mean, but don't, don't touch her i love her i mean, she's know abby phillips, but let's i am very curious because michael, you have written a children's book about a one donald trial. >> i have. >> how would you explain this past week's debate to my three-year-old or a four-year-old. i would say to your 33, turn off the television. do anything else other than watch what you're seeing on the debate stage? right now, it's not, it's not healthy for adults. i don't know that it's healthy for child what happened? how did you see it i saw the debate.

>> i feel like we're in a space now and we were just talking about this on said earlier is a debate still a place for a candidate to present policy points in 92nd digestible chunks or is it a place to just figure out who's less crazy two-hour sobriety field. sobriety tests that's really what a debate is. >> who can not say they're eating the dogs that's hard, it's hard to say. >> it's hard not to say, well, if especially hard not to accuse people have eating dog happening they say it's happening i heard has happened. and so it was happening know kamala's spanked him so bad because all she had to do was be a normal human being on pileated earth and she achieved that within the first ten seconds. >> it was beautiful. >> seems like the debate unlocked something in trump, like after that it was laura loomer, it was you know, just hanging out with these

conspiracy theorist. he does double down on the cats and the dogs. and then earlier today, here's what he said about her and her old job at mcdonald's and then you have kamala has claim that you worked at mcdonald's she never worked at mcdonald's. >> it's a lie they went in, they investigated it, and the fake news won't report that you said she stood over those french fries when they were being fried and it was so tough work such that she'd ever worked she's a liar it's the new birther conspiracy work at a mcdonald's in kenya, like where is this mcdonald's exactly it's so absurd. donald trump is coming for your job nobody will five begum burgers as one of the hardest, toughest things you can do. >> nobody is going to just say that just didn't make donalds. >> the argument was that she didn't put it on her resume when she was applying laugh. >> i mean but the real truth

is, who would put mcdonald's on your resume when you're applying for a legal job, unless you go on a burger again, those are reasonable doubt. at what point is this law firm calling to mcdonald's to see if you did good at reading the briefs i don't know any of the legal word other that, you know, or you read the habeas corpus. >> the top, i was stuck on duplicitous outside raleigh that's the press the college vote trump is really i mean, he's in a weird place. i think psychologically where he's kind of falling back on his own instincts about how to operate in politics and it's this kind of stuff. it's like we got to go after the french fries and whether she was really there, we have to go after the way she laughs. we have to say that maybe she's half or not really black. i don't know. >> i don't like donald trump's policies. i don't like his behavior, but i love and i'm sorry, i love when he

shouts a lie with all of his house i it's just it's crazy. i love it like, why why that's been his entire political career is just yelling lies and people loving it. >> will it work for a long time. and i think the one thing, you know, even on this network right after the debate whenever talking with the people who had been, i guess kinda questioned and hadn't washington post-debate coverage. and they were talking to, you know, kind of a roundtable of undecided voters here is the idea that out of this debate, we finally have undecided voters who just said, i would have liked to have heard more about a policies it's like we're going back to 2000. >> do you think that's real i mean, to your point earlier, i mean, do you think people really want to hear what she thinks or is that like a way of saying? i can't trust this lady until some indefinite time. >> look injured. those people are moving the goalposts, but i would rather them say that then becoming on tv ad going to last

a trump said, i think this close to the election of you are still undecided voter to some degree, your lazy voter who is not trying, you're not going out and seeking out the stuff. so to say, you have not seen her. so your thing about the thing, it's been two years ago campaign and may what have you not? what link did you not click? what did you not scroll by? what's in your algorithm where you haven't seen at least one thing that you know, she's about if you're going to end up going to argue, she flip-flopped on whatever because that's the new thing they're pull him out, right? >> oh you that we know you're saying it, though to the website go today, instagram. well, she i mean, she did change her positions on a lot of things, but so as i wonder though taylor swift has entered the chat and she's endorsed what do you think is the impact ultimately of her jumping in for kamala harris will clearly like celebrity endorsements are debatable in terms of the effect that they have but i mean, does anybody moved the

needle like taylor swift does. i mean, what was that thing about thousands and thousands and thousands of people were registering when she got endorsement. and i'm guessing most of those people are not i'm going to end up voting trump. >> what's been the vibe at her concerts, you've been to i've been to many how many? 52 life we had a swiftie at the table i mean, speaking of celebrity endorsements thank you, abby. >> thank you. >> i assume that's where we're heading with this oh, sorry. >> sorry. >> this is actually a celebrity endorsement. this one comes from robert de niro. here's what he had to say about trump he's, a. shark senate. he wants me to clown like that. you think she's a gangster. he does everything. like a gangster i don't think that gangsters in that world would want think much of him this is a guy who knows gangsters. >> he's played 14 of them yes.

>> so people will listen. i presume. >> do think this broke trump's heart to hear? >> it had to it had to write de niro's a quintessential new york worker so to get like it's one thing for him to say ye kamala buffer him to call him not a gangster and a baby. >> it yeah. >> that ones. got to steam thing. i just don't know how much ultimately so i believe that celebrities can bring attention to the issues, but i think it's on the politicians in their charisma, lack thereof in terms of retention, like, okay, you register all these people to vote please go to the polls, please deal with the nonsense that's going on. please deal with all of the voter fraud and all of the nonsense it wherever it because most of these people wherever they live, there are some law didn't put in place to make the act of voting more difficult as well. and so whether or not the celeb endorsement is sustainable beyond that, but if taylor swift is getting people to pay attention to politics, it is

net positive same as megan thee stallion coming out on stage in atlanta the same as i hate to say it. hoecke hogan and kid rock. kid rock and amber rose? yeah. anybody they're just people go. oh, i like are you okay. we'll only about abortion law? >> no one moves the needle like hulk hogan news it. tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. you're watching cnn. what are we going to see you're going to see three amazing people right here making sense of everything that happened this weekend. >> news and it's not just i mean, there's a lot of politics, but it's not just polish. no, no, absolutely. i would even say that it's politically dominant. it's just what has been the conversation in the zeitgeist across the gamut, it could be the debate, it could be all the way to shannon sharpe and him not knowing how to use instagram, laugh, there is a spectrum of topics that we could get into, but the show, the mothership show has been on for almost 35 seasons in

england. so we're in good hands and it's a format that's been done well overseas. and so we're bringing it over here. >> is there a winner? at the end of the day? >> if, if my team wins, then yes 13 wins now than it doesn't okay. >> okay yeah >> look, i'm willing to do whatever it takes to make my team the winning team will i pay roy money? yeah well, i bribery is except michael in the shins yeah it's simple. >> if you live watched the quiz show before, if you have watched the news, if you are up on those two things, you will understand the format of the game were using a quiz show format with no money and no point to present and have a conversation about topics would amazing guests that come on every week as well. >> so can you tell us who the other comedians or is that a secret well, no, it's not i'll just comedians that again so on tomorrow night, it's matt welch and we're going to have robin thede okay. all right. should. be fine, guys. thank you all for being here. we're looking forward to watching the first

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you've been on the court it is notable, but it's also notable. >> when you the side with the conservatives, and you've done so just slightly more than your colleagues, justice elena kagan, justice sotomayor, most recently in this fisher versus united states case, that's the january 6 prosecution case. you agreed with the majority that the justice department did improperly used its obstruction statute the severity of what happened on that day is something that you wrote about in your book, was that a hard decision for you to make i wouldn't say it was a hard decision. >> and this is an example. i think of the difference between law and politics i ruled in that case consistent with what i believe the law required given the statute at issue. the context in which it was enacted tomorrow is your birthday. yes. happy early birthday. thank

you. you share that birthday with someone who is an idol of yours? yes. constance baker motley she was the first woman to argue before the high court. now you're sitting on it what does that feel like right at this moment? >> oh, it's such an honor to be able to serve in this capacity judge motley was an icon for so many people. >> it became team partly a goal of mine to get a federal judicial appointments because i learned of her experience and so admired her but judge motley, who argued something like ten cases in the supreme court and won nine of them. >> didn't have an opportunity to sit on the supreme court because she grew up in a time where that was not going to be possible so i feel so craig